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How Much Bigger Can You Be ? : The Power Of Sisterhood with The Retreat Queens! Part 2 of 2

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Have you ever considered the profound changes that take root when you put down the Have you ever considered the profound changes that occur when you put down the wine glass and join hands with a community of women on a journey of awakened, sensual living?

In today's episode, we explore part 2 of the transformative power of sisterhood and sobriety, weaving through tales of personal growth and connection from the Ignite Your Vision retreat. Celebrate the courage to live intentionally and the magic of sober interactions.


Key Takeaways:

  • Sisterhood and Sobriety: Discover the power of a supportive community and the clarity that comes with sobriety.
  • Transformational Stories: Hear personal journeys of women transitioning from indulgence to conscious clarity.
  • Intentional Living: Learn about the intentional connections and daily rituals that infuse life with purpose.
  • Emotional Healing: Explore how sobriety becomes an act of self-care and emotional healing.
  • Awakened Life: Celebrate the joy and spiritual alignment found in living an awakened, sober life.

This time of year can be full of joy, but it can also come with extra stress and temptations around alcohol. So, I thought, why not offer something to help bring in a bit more ease and peace?
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Speaker 1:

And there was a part of me that just knew that I needed sacred sisterhood. But I didn't really know what that looked like because I haven't had it before.

Speaker 2:

Do you ever feel like you're outgrowing alcohol, that you are longing for a deeper connection to life? If alcohol is keeping you playing small and feels like the one area you just can't figure out, you are in the right place. Hi, my name is Mary Wagstaff. I'm a holistic alcohol coach who ended a 20-year relationship to alcohol without labels, counting days or ever making excuses. Now I help powerful women just like you eliminate their desire to drink on their own terms.

Speaker 2:

In this podcast, we will explore the revolutionary approach of my proven five shifts process that gets alcohol out of your way by breaking all of the rules and the profound experience that it is to rediscover who you are on the other side of alcohol. I am so thrilled to be your guide. Welcome to your journey of awakening. Well, here it is, my beautiful listeners. Thank you so much for being here. Welcome to your journey of awakening. Well, here it is, my beautiful listeners. Thank you so much for being here. This is part two of our sister circle interview from our beautiful queens from the Ignite your Vision retreat and in this episode we get into a little bit more about sobriety and sisterhood and why it is not only important but really essential for establishing safety and using that connection and meaning to life for your own growth, to explore your own authentic expression and really stepping in a place of deep self-trust, confidence and, of course, so much frigging fun. Okay, enjoy the show.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's such a lovely honor to see everyone here again, see your lovely faces. It was just the most amazing experience. And I feel like I am still every day integrating and trying to bring a little bit of back of the retreat magic into my everyday life. When I get deep down into just the drudgery of the day and like, oh my gosh, and this and that, and it's just, it just does so much for me to just take a minute, take a breath and just remember where we were and the beauty of that special container that held us all so actually, just beautifully, and gave each and every one of us, I think, the just feeling so safe to share with each other.

Speaker 1:

Um, what I went into the retreat, um, mary, was really looking for sacred sisterhood and looking for, um, that divine feminine that I really felt like I never had really found in my life. And and there was a part of me that just knew that I needed sacred sisterhood, but I didn't really know what that looked like because I haven't had it before and I've been following Mary's podcast and I did her 40-day alcohol transformation challenge and that was really pretty amazing for me to be able to give a new relationship to alcohol, in the sense that I was really looking at it as something like, not something to give up, but something like what? Who am I without that and how much more can I be? And that was just like so, so powerful for me. So I just knew, like, when this retreat came up, that was just like the universe like saying, okay, here's your, here's this gift I'm giving you. And so I knew that it was going to be so amazing and so powerful. And I knew again I had family as well that were like what, you're going up to Mexico and you don't know one person. And I said, well, that's true, but I know in my heart that these people were chosen specifically for me, and so I knew it was going to be amazing.

Speaker 1:

But what I didn't really know is what that would look like and just how grounding and how, just igniting within me that power of divine, feminine and really feeling, um, yeah, like Mimi said, like, yeah, you do belong, you absolutely deserve to be, not only here in this group of sisterhood, but like you were designed exactly to be you who you are, and you absolutely deserve to be in this world and to be exactly the person that you are.

Speaker 1:

Um, and that just is, um, I can't even say like, just like, just how much of a gift that is and how free that has made me feel. Just, I know there's still you know, we all have all that stuff that we've got to still work through, but it has really lightened my life and really made me feel so much more present in my everyday. So I thank you all so much for that and literally just the treasure of all of you and just how much intention and how much was actually put into this retreat by Mary and Nora. I mean it was just everything that you could ask for and a hundred times more. So it was truly a gift. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4:

Bonnie um bonnie thank you, terry and all of my sisters who shared. It's so wonderful to see you all. Um, I guess, going into the retreat, well, well, when I first heard about it, I was just an absolute hell yes, um, I have worked with Mary for a couple of years now and, um, and I would follow that woman anywhere, even in Mexico. So when I heard about this retreat and everything that Nero was offering as well, yeah, it was a hell. Yes, and I didn't know how I was going to do that exactly Financially. That was a question mark. But what I have learned and remembered is that listening to, to my truth and giving myself permission to do the thing and to follow my heart and to follow my calling, um, is such an incredibly powerful thing to do. So I went for it. So right away I was on board, Um, and the title was yes.

Speaker 4:

The title was ignite your vision, and so part of me was like, okay, I've been through. It was kind of in a place where, like I'd been through a divorce, I was just kind of getting on my feet again, um, for myself, and I, um, I didn't really know what I was gonna you going to get out of it. I guess my vision was a little bit more for my career and coming out of it with like, okay, when I get back I'll be ready to just jump right in. But I got so much more out of it. I got so much more out of it. I think it was led so beautifully and with such intention by Nura and Mary that brought us to a place of letting go and brought us to a place of like an unveiling of what it was that we all needed to be there for.

Speaker 4:

So I gained so much clarity and I think what it was is that I was ready, I'm ready for this, to up-level my life, to up-level my life, and what that looks like at this point is being in just utter joy, utter pleasure and utter ease as I navigate my life, which is always going to be or at least is now and may always be full for children, you know, on my own working. There's always the things and what I also found being able to bring that into my daily life and to know that that was witnessed by all of these sisters and that I can tap into the energy of all of these sisters and of that experience at any time. It's always there. It became really clear when I was on a retreat because I was taken away from all of the things in my life. But the beauty of it has really been to come back into all of the things and to and to know that there's a way to to always be connected to that space and that ease and that pleasure.

Speaker 3:

And following my hell, yes, and giving myself permission has been, has been just key in in, in up leveling and going to the next level of my life. So I'm in deep gratitude for Mary and Nura, our hosts, and all of you sisters, and to myself for saying yes, thank you so much wisdom.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness, thank you all. There's like so many tangents. I could go on from everything that you've said, um, but I would like to share myself, um, my intention, and I've probably shared this a bunch, but for going in, there were so many things I mean I think I shared with everyone and maybe even on the podcast already. That was kind of this big full circle moment for me, because my big transformation of my journey beyond alcohol right, which, like Terry so beautifully stated, was more about how much more can I be, and like the call was already there for me in my life, and this was six years, over six years ago. I mean the call was kind of there for, like you know, 20 years for really honest. But there was like this point where just it was like all I could think about was like I got to get rid of this thing because I got to do this other thing, and of course I didn't really know what that was. I just knew there was something else.

Speaker 2:

And so I found myself saying yes to a sister's retreat, having no idea what it meant to sit in sacred sisterhood at all, having no clue what the divine feminine really was and all of these things, like hula hoop dancing, all these things kept coming into my life and I was introduced to the priestess path, and the path of the priestess is the journey of reclamation, reclaiming ourselves as whole and holy, beyond the conditioning, beyond the conformity.

Speaker 2:

And you know, I've kind of already been on that path, but not really knowing how to do it through the lens of the feminine. And so when I felt strong and stable and confident enough in my career and seeing the transformation that you know, I've been able to support women through, it was like something I've been wanting to do since the first time I went to like a yoga retreat center and I was like, you know, oh, my gosh and um, and it felt really important to do it with someone, to co-create the experience, and I was so grateful that Nura said yes and I was so proud of her and we celebrated, and so thank you, nura. But my biggest intention was to create the space you know, for Nura, and I as well, to have a transformational experience.

Speaker 2:

But like I just know, I just knew, like this is how we this is how we do it.

Speaker 2:

You know, know, I just knew, like this is how we, this is how we do it, you know, Um, because there's no substitute. Like we can get a lot done in the virtual space, but there's no substitute, and you know. So that was my intention. Like to create this space for transformation, which 100% happened. I mean, it was so like wildly beyond my expectations of how you know, and and and I, and it couldn't have been so transformative had you all not showed up in the way that you did. However, I think the extent of it was really like blew me away the extent of what I was capable of in my body, my energy, the extent of what Neura and I were capable of as a partnership, and the surrender and the trust, and then the extent of, like, the support from the unseen realms of the goddess of nature, and that is really what I believe was the true gift that allowed us to tap into that joy, that connection with sisterhood. Like I really think, like we could have planned any, like we planned and I really trusted our execution was was created in a specific way, but I really have to give it up to the goddess. I mean, she showed up like no one's business, right, and? And there was so much the energy of this retreat many, many months ago with that intention of support and trust.

Speaker 2:

But there's this thing that happens with the elements. Right, we're in the elements, we're in nature, we're outside the entire time. If anyone hasn't looked, you can look at the retreat center present moment. It's like our temple space was all open air, it was outside. We're seeing the moon, we're seeing the sun, the eclipse, the waves, the water, like the fire, all the elements and the turtles, the bioluminescence, and to really be able to be free in who we are and connect to our humanity, while seeing the like bigger picture of creation and that meeting point of the finite and the infinite. And when that point comes together and all your senses are tuned, you're like turned in to, tuned into all of them.

Speaker 2:

There's like this orgasmic experience, this Eros, this, this energy that pulses through you, that you know and, like Camille said, that, like the consistency, right Is what opened up inside, right, what? What? That churning, that willingness to continue to show up, but really witnessing that from my perspective because, like I was participating, but from a different angle, and really witnessing that what happened for me as a host, as a facilitator, as a space holder, and then for you all, uh, in reverence to the beloved, the beloved, and in my path, and like I just wasn't expecting that, like that trust, that level of like unflinching faith to really like it, just overflows again and again Like I need any, I don't need any more unflinching faith Like.

Speaker 2:

I've already been through it again and again. Like I need any, I don't need any more unflinching faith, like I've already been proven it again and again. But we do right, we fit, life happens, our egos take over and it's like what's the point of it all, you know, I mean it happens. But to really witness, um, the power of connecting to our senses the embodiment and the nature and the sisterhood, this beyond you know, the conditioning and the conformity, and this authentic expression was so profound, so profound, and I'm just so grateful for even the opportunity to remember it right now. So, thank you, and just for expressing it, because, holy shit, wow, and this is what I'm always trying to get through to the audience on the other side of this microphone here is when we come closer to ourselves, we get access to layers of pleasure and desire that we didn't know were there before. Right, and what alcohol does and I'm just going to kind of bring this in and we'll probably, I'm going to actually just kind of ask one more question is more of like a popcorn style and then we'll ground and and close our circle. But it's like anything. It could be alcohol, it could be like any way that we're buffer, that we're looking, we're reaching outside of ourselves to find ourselves. It's like kind of ridiculous when you say it like that, right, like we're looking outside of ourselves to find ourselves. But I did it for 20 years and I did it with lots of things through traveling through, you know, all sorts of stuff and, um, you know, we do it in relationships and it's like it's just not, it's not the way.

Speaker 2:

So I would love to ask if anyone has any insight, because this is a podcast called Stop Drinking and Start Living, and I'm not sure exactly how to articulate this, but why this wouldn't have worked, and it's pretty obvious, like so I just want to express this to the listeners too this was not a retreat about sobriety. This was not a retreat about alcohol. This was not a retreat about that at all. Right, it was a retreat about reclaiming ourselves and igniting our inner vision, but it was a requirement. It was what we.

Speaker 2:

We asked, you know, in honor of the sacredness of the container, to to refrain from, you know, from using substances, refrain from alcohol, and um, how would what would that have been like? Like, why, how would it have not worked? Or I guess the question just is like, even in experiences where you've had, you know, even on vacation or on retreat or or even connecting with other women in through that lens and I know not everyone here has necessarily a relationship with alcohol or even you know other substances but having the intention of sobriety, regardless of your relationship, why do you think that? What was the impact? I would just love to hear anyone's perspective about having some resistance to that at first, or like what showed up for you around that.

Speaker 6:

I'm going to say it was one of the most refreshing things and why I was drawn to it. Because I knew it was going to be this honest, true expression of everyone and I. I had faith in the goddess that it was. It was going to be healing and safe and safe and this um, I don't know, I'm lost, but a loss for words it was. It was like it was going to be present and conscious and true and real. It wasn't going to be.

Speaker 6:

You know, I mean, when I've been drunk and and hanging out on vacation or with groups of people for years, I drank and I just I crave the opposite. Now I crave the opposite of clarity and purity and connection at a deeper level and being conscious and aware at a deeper level and being conscious and aware and the magic that happens in me and with other people. It's like, it's beautiful. So that was something that, and the fact that you know we were in such a cool place that normally in my mind in the past would be like going to Mexico and I had people say to me oh, you're going to drink and party and dance and whoop it up with all the ladies and I'm thinking, no, I'm doing it all sober and I'm damn proud of it. So that's my two cents Dance and party and and move it up for sure. Oh yeah, totally.

Speaker 2:

Well, and let me just ask you this, since you're talking about it how does that, how did having that experience because I think you know what happens for a lot of people. It's like if you're the sober one going into a group and everyone's drinking, right, it's like, oh, I'm kind of the odd man out, or at least that's what you experience at first. But how did this experience, how did it set you up to like go into a different environment, Maybe, where that is happening in a different way or in a different perspective? Like, how do you feel about that now? Like, say, you are going into an experience where people are like partying with drinking and you're not. You're craving consciousness.

Speaker 6:

I thank you for asking me that, mary, because I went from being a drinker and being married to a drinker to being resentful and angry and judgmental around it, to developing compassion and a draw to support myself as I stopped and started drinking and I watched other people stop and start drinking that I've connected with and I feel like compassion and just being graceful. And just when I go into situations I'm more hyper aware of, okay, what is my intention going in? It may be someone's birthday party that I love dearly and that I want to go, but I have to say I'm going to show up and be really aware of what's going on in me and give myself permission to step away from that if it gets too uncomfortable or, you know, honor that because it took me a while to either be okay with being in bars or parties or whatever, and then also be okay saying no, I'm not into this tonight.

Speaker 6:

I'm going to choose to say no, I'm not going to put myself in that, whether I'm in a bitchy judgmental space and I know I'm just going to be annoyed by it, or I'm going to choose to drink, I still occasionally will like have a glass of wine. I know my limits. I've worked a lot on my that. The whole thing around like why do I need to still feel like I need to connect with my mother by sharing a glass of wine at dinner? And oftentimes I say no, thanks, mom. I don't want to do that tonight. Other times I will, but you know, compassion is my answer for self and others.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you so much for that, and if there's anyone that wants to share just about being social, being sober, and I think that it's just it's it's one of the things I would love to. I would love for our audience to hear.

Speaker 4:

I would just quickly chime in and say that I had such a blast Like I haven't laughed so ridiculously hard in a really long time and it felt so good.

Speaker 4:

Um, and the dancing and everything was just like a lot of fun. Um, but also and um, yeah, also, I just I felt like the clear connection between elements, between spirit, between the goddess and myself. I think that could not have happened had I been drinking and this is also coming from someone who's had a 20-year relationship with alcohol and I haven't been drinking for quite some time but, um, but that clarity that, that clarity of the channel of connection, and then where the and then where the, that's like where the gifts come, that's where the receiving, that's where I felt so capable of receiving these like magical moments and these magical gifts and this magical connection, and that's like the, that's like the deep layer that I was able to get into because I had clarity of mind, body, spirit, without the alcohol. That was huge for me.

Speaker 5:

So both of those things okay, I have something to share and I don't drink and I never have. So, mary, if you want to cut my comment out, because I'm like, not really qualified to answer this, feel free. Um, but here's the thing I know why I would drink, and it would be to numb out to some heavy things, to things that are difficult and I have plenty of other things that I go to to numb out to some of the big feelings, to some of the hard things, and, um, so I have to be conscious of my relationship with those things. If it's not alcohol, it's something else. Right, we have, we have many tricks up our sleeves that we use to avoid the hard.

Speaker 5:

And as beautiful and fun and exciting and delicious as this retreat was, I think every one of us had some hard things to face as well and had some more painful things that came to the surface for us to deal with. And you can't do that, right, if you're not sober. You have to be able to feel those feelings. Um, we run away from them a lot of times. You know, we don't want to, we don't want to look at it, we don't want to feel it, we want to push it away, we want to ignore it. Um, just, you know, stick our head in the sand like an ostrich and hopes it goes away, but when your head is in the sand, your butt is waving in the air, somebody just push you over, real easy, right. So it's not, it's not ideal.

Speaker 5:

Um, there were some things that came up for me and they can be so powerful to be able to sit with those feelings, you know, invite them in for tea, ask them the questions, you know, what are you? What are you trying to show me? What do you need to teach me? And? And being able to feel them and see them and look them in the eye is what enables them to to move on and to to release and for you to get, you know, the understanding that you need, um, and the peace that you need.

Speaker 5:

And so I think you know we had the opportunity while we were on the retreat to feel some feelings and lots of feelings, and it sounds like it's a common theme. I think a lot of us have been dealing with some big things post-retreat, um, and I love that we had that opportunity to, to really have that safe place to to feel all the feelings, um, and gives you that that knowledge of your own capacity to be able to do that. I think we've probably all used some of those skills as we've been home you know I have um and gives you that confidence to know that you can, like you, you can face those things and you can do it sober and you can do it mindfully and intentionally. You can. You can fill all those things and process all of those things and move through them and and actually that's where the healing happens right, we all have things that we need to heal and you can only, I think, do that sober.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so beautifully said. Thank you so much, mimi. Do you want to go ahead? I?

Speaker 3:

do I want to mention? I definitely came in with the belief that I was a shy person and that substances helped me loosen up and connect with a group more easily. But going through this really affirmed to me that those connections are so much more shallow than what we were able to do when we were conscious, like Bonnie was saying. And that clarity that we were able to do when we were conscious like Bonnie was saying and that clarity that we were able to feel with our senses turned way up, that connection to nature that Mary mentioned too. And dancing, going out dancing in the past would have definitely meant to me like that's, you're staying up late, you're going out drinking.

Speaker 3:

Dancing sober was something that I knew was a fear of mine and it was actually why I signed up is because I wanted to go ahead and face that and it was a lovely container to rip that bandaid off. Every morning we danced. But then Mary's a great ecstatic DJ and I looked up the community in my area. So it is such a large movement that I didn't know about. So if you don't know about it yet, go look up ecstatic dance in your area and move in your own body for yourself, without anybody else's opinions on how you move. Each dance that I've gone to has been such a welcoming space that anything goes and everything's accepted, and it's really brought a lot back to my life. So thank you for introducing me to that. And that dancing doesn't mean going out drinking and staying up late.

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh my gosh, there's so, so, so, so much, and I think I really appreciate. You know what you were saying about um, you know, yeah, tough stuff came up for all of us. I mean, that was kind of the point right, it's like we've got to.

Speaker 2:

We've got to clear and make space for what wants to come through. And then there's like the safety of the container and what you know I talk about. On the show a lot is alcohol is really just the portal. It's the doorway that gets you here because, like you said, it's it could be anything. Now we have a lot of cultural narrative around the normalization of it and it's you know, there's a lot of cultural narrative around the normalization of it and there's a lot of story there.

Speaker 2:

And the main point is is it keeping me from who I want to be? Is it keeping me from the life I want? And that could be like fill in the blank, but because it wasn't the subject of our conversation, it allowed. What was underneath the reason that you're using X in the first place? Right? What is that need that you're using that for, that you're not learning how to meet on your own and why? And then someone earlier said, you know, there was this light reflected back to me of myself. And so safety.

Speaker 2:

I just did an episode on establishing safety as number one and that was, like you know, our first couple of days at the retreat was really establishing a sense of safety with each other, with self, with body, with the space, so that we could, we didn't need the safety net of this thing that just dulls and and and gives us, you know, takes us further away from the thing that we're trying to get to. And then we release that and then there's the joy, then there's the pleasure, and sometimes, like the ecstasy you know, doesn't always feel good, right, the release, the catharsis of deep emotional processing doesn't like feel good while you're doing it, but it is an ecstatic experience, right, like ecstatic dance. Shit comes up on the dance floor, but it's the fullest, it's the fullness of the expression of being human that you have access to. That makes it ecstatic, right. So my motto is ecstatic dance will save the world. So, yes, another one for ecstatic dance. I mean, I'm so like love, see, like thinking about you on the ecstatic dance floor and and that's a sober experience as well, also held and created in this container where we get to be safe in our bodies and I know what a challenge that can be in our modern world, right, with all of the things, all the messages coming in, and especially for women. You know, our bodies have been shamed, our bodies have been exploited and used against us, and the process that makes life and creates life has also been shamed and, you know, looked at as unsanitary, like not hygienic, and it's like sorry that I'm a goddess, like sorry I can create life, right. So that's what we're reclaiming too. We're reclaiming, like Camille said, like the body, you know, the connection to the body being the most natural thing. It's like, you know, menstruation is the most natural, organic thing that happens, and this is beyond our conversation now, but it is still part of it, right, like it is still the essence. And so I could like summarize any of this for our listeners and for the intention that I have for bringing you all and I'm so, so grateful for your words and for your just, your love and your, your presence in my life um is that there is something profound that happens when you put yourself in a room with other women looking to do the same, with other women looking to reclaim and get closer to themselves. It is magic, it is sacred, it is a living prayer and it is ancient. For women to sit in circle is an ancient practice, um, that connects us to timelines beyond, to our past lives, connects us to the future, um, and it's the intention that creates the safety. It's not the conformity right. We're not conforming to the same ideals. We're holding the intention Someone said this earlier.

Speaker 2:

We're holding the intention of the individual, of the authentic right that we can be in our own. I think Melanie said this that there was this intention of like I want you to take care of yourself in the way that's best for you. So, whether it's here, you know, and there's virtual spaces, um, and I really try to create that space in the podcast, and sometimes that is one-on-one with a person, um, but it might be with the goddess, it might be in nature, right, where you can connect. I believe that's a way we can connect to sisterhood, connect to the divine feminine, obviously through nature, but it is available and you're not alone, right, because everyone, I think, kind of left the retreat being like, wow, there are other women looking for the same thing as me and that's exactly how I felt when I went on my first sister's retreat and then I started a sister circle and the ball kept rolling and it just creates more feminine empowerment, more female, you know, feminine leadership in the world, which we really need right now.

Speaker 2:

And that doesn't just come through, you know, the female body, but the feminine leading right With compassion, with, with creativity, with all of the things that comes through the feminine and unconditional love. So I think that that's how I'll end our show today. So I would love to invite all of you, sisters, and everyone listening, to just come back for a couple of breaths into their body. You can soften your eyes, maybe even place a hand over your heart and give your heart a little rub, take a big breath into your heart space, pressing your heart into your hand, acknowledging your time here. What does it mean to be in this frequency, to be in this vibration of what is present for you, what is alive for you now and where do you want to take it? Neuro always says what's the creative next step, and it just has to be one, right? Maybe, after you listen to this, you just step outside and put your feet on the earth and look at the horizon and take a big breath in and remember a little bit more who you are, presencing, your grounding cord, your connection to the above love. May our circle remain open but unbroken. May the love of the goddess live forever in your hearts. Merry meet, merry part and merry meet again. Thank you, thank you, thank you, blessed be, and so it is. Thank you, everyone for listening and tuning in and for the bravery of all of our special guests today. I'm just so honored to get this out into the world and we will definitely be talking soon and I'm just going to put this little plug out there that before the end of the year, there is probably going to be an invitation for gathering together in sacred sisterhood for the collective, so I'm just going to put that out there. Have a wonderful day, everyone, and I'll talk to you next week. None of this would be possible without you.

Speaker 2:

I wanted to say thank you so much for being here and, as a special gift, I want to give you access to a masterclass that I created called Fearless Sobriety. It is going to walk you step by step through my five shifts process. That is going to help you really gain a new perspective on an old habit, and once you sign up and you're registered. It'll take you only about 15 seconds and you'll be rated. It's on demand about 15 seconds and you'll be rated. It's on demand. You will receive a bonus guided meditation that's going to help you learn how to experience sensations in your body essentially from urges, from emotions without freaking out. It's going to help you learn to regulate your nervous system so that you can be in any situation, anywhere and feel grounded and feel safe. So head on over to my website, marywagstaffcoachcom. It'll prompt you to click the link for the free training and I will see you on the inside.